Ok... So Whats everyones view on aliens you know life beyond earth, reincarnation and ghosts... I myself believe in them all... What about everyone else...?:confused:
Are you a believer ??
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09-21-2009, 08:09 AMFedererFan2Are you a believer ??
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09-21-2009, 10:44 AMLawn Tennis
i think it would be silly to think we are the only ones in the universe. it's so massive. i don't know how intelligent or unintelligent these life forms may be, but there's no doubt in my mind there is something out there.
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09-21-2009, 01:26 PMJohn
I believe that there is life beyond Earth. There are far too many planets in the universe, hundreds of billions, for Earth to be the only one that just happened to end up with life on it.
When I was in college one of my professors did an analysis and determined, based on mathematical probability, that there are at least 50,000 planets in the known universe which are capable of supporting life as we know it. -
09-21-2009, 04:31 PMLawn Tennis
i suppose he has employed the theory that the universe is still expanding and at the speed of light...
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09-21-2009, 05:14 PMtennisking1
Do you guys realize that when a person passes that they have proven that a release of energy is detected. No kidding. A form of energy (the soul?) going somewhere. I am a firm believer in God and His goodness. Why should we believe we are the only ones anyway? I think the answer is too big for us to comprehend. I find it very inspiring though the number of doctors and such who firmly believe in God. If there is one profession that would test my beliefs, it would be that profession. If we were created in God's image, it must mean that God has an imagination. And if God has an imagination, I am sure He created more than just us on this one planet. Once He got the ball rolling, many things were created that we are just learning about.
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09-21-2009, 06:03 PMFedererFan2
Cool... So im not the only one who believes... Everyone seems to believe in life beyond earth but what about reincarnation...?
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09-21-2009, 11:15 PMLawn Tennis
i think this life that we know has a one-way door. in other words, reincarnation is just wishful thinking made up by people who can't imagine anything beyond this world.
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09-21-2009, 11:23 PMandylo
I never understand why we born - then die. What's the freaking point of that.
I really enjoy every very day of me living (although at the moment is pretty painful) but the thought of I will die after x years really bugs me.
I believe in god and because I am more of a christian, so the reincarnation thing is pretty much out of the picture for me. -
09-22-2009, 03:21 AMFedererFan2
I probably should of mentioned im catholic... I dont know why but i find it easier to believe in reincarnation rather then heaven having pearly gates and st peter on the gate and all this... I do believe in heaven just also believe in reincarnation... Its probably cos of my sister dying at birth... I just think she deserved to live and i kind of hope reincarnation exists but anyway... Who believes in ghosts...? I do...
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09-22-2009, 08:19 AMtennisking1I think it is a leap of faith. We come here to learn and interact with only the belief in God and His words that try and help us along and keep us on the path that is best for us. We establish an identity while we are here with a name and stories to tell. We then die and move on with an actual knowing of who we are. My uncle was a quarterback with the San Francisco 49ers back in the 60's and he contracted Lou Gherig's disease from the "vitamins" they gave him when he would get injured. He fought it for 6 years and then one morning, he brought his wife and kids into the den and told them that the Lord had come to him in the night and said that he would be leaving the next night. He was content and so sure of it. His family put it in the back of their minds. He kissed them goodbye that night and when they awoke the next morning, he had passed. How could he have been so sure? I believe. His family sure does too. (You can google him. Bob Waters and type in football as well. Pretty inspiring story.)Quote:
Originally Posted by andylo
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09-22-2009, 09:08 AMandylo
Lots of people told me they rather not knowing when they will die.
To me if I am going to friggin die anyway, tell me when please! So I can plan my life a little better. -
09-22-2009, 09:26 AMJohnThe professor's number of planets that could support life was based on the estimated number of planets in the universe and the random probability of having the right combination of elements that could support life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawn Tennis
If I'm remembering correctly, he gave all elements the same probability. So, it was basically a permutation of the known number of elements, then the percentage of the combinations which could sustain life (as we know it) and finally multiplied by the approximate number of planets.
That was just a very rough random estimate.
It would probably be more accurate if the estimated quantities of all the elements could be considered as well. For example, if there is 10x more hydrogen in the universe then that probably means the chance for hydrogen to be present is 10x more likely, so that would change the random chances of it being present. -
09-22-2009, 10:08 AMFedererFan2
Thats very interesting john... Does if work in a university or where...? Sounds really good...
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09-22-2009, 10:24 AMLawn TennisQuote:
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i'm with ya on the view that there is more life out there. but i find it hard to put any trust that theory simply because it is a very rough estimate based on rough estimates at best. still, that's interesting. -
09-23-2009, 01:44 AMJohnH
I don't believe for one minute that we (humans) are the only sentient beings in the Universe. And having said that, I'd sure as heck like to meet and play tennis with an "alien" :)
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09-23-2009, 12:54 PMLawn Tennislol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnH
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09-23-2009, 10:54 PMJohnWell, I suppose no theory will ever be fully proven in this sense as the entire universe would need to be known and cataloged. But I do see what you mean. I would say that the random probability as explained by that professor could be polished up a lot better so as to be more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawn Tennis
A different class I took back in college, with a different professor, was 'The Mathematics of Gambling' and let me tell you, that was one difficult class. Maybe because I didn't work hard enough at it, but I was the top student in my calculus class and calc was really getting "easy" for me. Anyhow, I thought that class was going to be more gambling and less math, but was I wrong about that. I learned that there is a lot more to probability than what meets the eye, or what is generally expected. It can be an extremely precise math. That professor used to make big bucks on the side consulting for the casinos... he would correct the games where the casinos were losing money when their math told them they should be making money (turned out their probability/math was incorrect).
Back to the alien stuff, I mentioned all that about the probability class just to say that the theory on alien life just based on random probability could surely be done with much more accuracy. There could be so many factors involved, but with enough data the numbers could get quite close. This would be at least somewhat relevant simply because random probability is very often seen in nature. But, the theory still only estimates the number of planets that are capable of supporting life. So there's still chance that life never developed on those planets. Could be another whole giant probability equation regarding the chances that life would develop for any given planet that has the environment necessary to support life. That sure would be interesting. -
09-24-2009, 09:58 AMRobyna
Yeesss, Science :)
Okay, well I think aliens DO NOT exist. however, i strongly believe that some form of life must be out there. aliens are just fictional characters, just one example of what could be out there.
the second the big bang happened, something must have made us.
not just atoms, something which has made other forms of life in different galaxies of the earth.
I'd like to think that somewhere out there, there is a human race much advanced then us, technologically and sociologically.
I think there just HAS TO be something out there, i mean.. this whole universe, infinite in size, can't just be what we as humans see can it? -
11-16-2009, 01:13 PMsaizalliskivyAre you a believer
lol you are right but something about them makes me freak out. About a month ago, we had a huge freaking spider on the wall and my hubby was at work, so I asked my neighbor to come kill it for me and she did.
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12-13-2011, 02:20 AMhenryadam
yeah ! i believe because as human is living on the planet earth same as like this many planets are in the galaxy who have life on it , which are so called aliens , may be our space ships have not reached them , but they are somewhere in the galaxy .
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03-17-2012, 01:49 AMAlexander_johnHello,Quote:
Originally Posted by FedererFan2
Well i don't believe that there is any aliens in this world.
